Minutes of the British APL Association 2024

Date 6th June 2024

Attendees:

  • John Jacob (Jake)
  • Darren Drapkin
  • Adám Brudzewsky
  • Paul Grosvenor
  • Kyn Pomlett
  • Ray Cannon
  • Carlos Heinz Isensee
  • Martínez
  • Curtis Jones
  • Nicholas Small
  • Ziggi Paul
  • Guy Larocque
  • Raymond Polivka

Paul opened the meeting, Paul will need to leave early and Jack will take over as Chair

The minutes from the previous AGM (2022) approved, proposed by John Jacob, and seconded by Adám Brudzewsky. 

Chairmans Report

Paul presented the Chairmans Report, which is available on line.

  • We lost Chris Hogan this year
  • BAA meeting continues to run every 2 weeks
  • Dyalog continue to hold annual user meetings and APL competitions
  • Ray Polivka has released a new book “APL for beginners”
  • APL 2000 has released a new APL 64 product
  • APL Trust fund – Charity to Promotion of APL for the benefit of education and science
    • Does the BAA want to become a contributor?  To be discuss maybe at an EGM
    • Ray Cannon suggested that the money left with BCS could be used here.  Maybe Gitte could request this money from the BCS
    • An initial pole was taken on the topic
      • 10 votes for yes (11 including Ray Polivka who voted after the pole was closed
      • 2 for Further consideration

Treasure’s Report 2022/23 and 2023/24 – Nicholas Small

  • Treasures Report is Available online
  • 2022/23 – Annual year – a slight deficit
  • 2023/24 – Renewal subscriptions for sustaining members were not sent as no AGM.  A Modest loss.
  • Sustaining members invoices will be sent soon.

Proposed by Adám Brudzewsky seconded by Paul Grosvenor

Editor and Events Report – John Jacob

  • Journal is now up and available
    • Dedicated page for each Journal
    • Newest first.
    • Jake gave a demo
    • Still and issue with the APL characters – You can read them but not copy and paste.
    • There are links to the originals where available
    • Adám Brudzewsky asked about copyright.  As these were given to Vector the copyright is with us, but maybe we should put a statement like “this is provided for the benefit of humanity” on the site to allow others to use the materials.  – Jake will give this some thought
  • Webinars and live meeting
    • We are into the 5th year of webinarsFor face-to-face meeting – Jake has some prices from The Worshipful Company of Information Technologists (approx. £100 per hour, £700 for full day plus catering). 
      • Pole, would be agreed to spend that sort of money
        • 6 – Yes2 – Further consideration1 – No
        It was however agreed further discussion would be best
      Consolidating the website
      • The Archive is still sitting on Chris Hogans server but Jake is working on decommissioning.Adám Brudzewsky pointed out that the statement “The larger part of the back catalogue only exists on paper” is no longer true.  This was corrected on the fly.Jake proposed BAA has it’s own cloud server.
        • Pole for the Cloud Server
          • 10 Yes1 Further Consideration
          The proposal was carried
        Dropbox should be a BAA drobox not personal ones
    • Would BAA like to pay for the new books written by Ray Polivka and distributed at Minnowbrook – £1000 (27 copies)
      • Paul has left the meeting by this point.
      • This was discussed at length, and how much feedback was received.
      • Only Davin has given feedback, it is believed he was given the book at this event.
      • Concerns were raised about how this came into being
      • Ray has not yet received payment.
      • Some books were mailed out.
      • This topic needs further discussion, when Paul was available.

Elect the Committee

  • Adám Brudzewsky proposed that the current committee be re-elected and Ray Cannon seconded
  • Ray had done the auditing this time around and was happy to continue until someone else could be found

AOB

Adám Brudzewsky asked it webinar meeting videos should be published, and that money should be made available for this process.  To be actioned for further attention.

Other videos could also be made available as a box set or playlist, for example Ray’s music stuff.

The committee should meet every 3 months.

Date for the Next AGM was agreed to be 12th June 2025

An EGM meeting should be arranged for 6 weeks from this meeting.

Minutes produced by Ziggi